In episode eight of Podcaster Stories, I sit down with Zach Moreno and Rockwell Felder of remote recording platform SquadCast, and the Between 2 Mics podcast.
After looking to use a remote recording solution for their internal team meetings, both Zach and Rock were disillusioned at what was on the market. They knew audio and reliability could be better, and so SquadCast was born.
They believed remote recording should – and, more importantly, could – be just as good as offline audio recording. We sit down to discuss the evolution of SquadCast, and how the podcaster experience is at the forefront of everything they do.
Topics up for discussion this week include:
- How limitations of other remote platforms led to the creation of SquadCast
- Why SquadCast is built from the podcaster’s viewpoint
- How Zach and Rock’s day jobs led them to how they approached SquadCast
- Why audio quality equal to offline recording was a core goal
- How SquadCast’s progressive upload technology differentiates them from others
- How SquadCast solved the problem of audio drift in remote recordings
- Why the SquadCast team refuse to settle for the status quo
- How the users of SquadCast have driven the direction of the platform
- How they’re trying to help educate remote podcasters through their Remote Podcast Stats Report and State of Remote Podcasting webinar
- Why data shows the use of headphones should be mandatory for all podcasters
- How their well-known Board members and advisors became involved
- How the reciprocity of the podcast community drives Zach and Rock
- Why analytics is the next big challenge to bust in podcasting
- Why new podcasters shouldn’t get bogged down by the technical side of things
- Why tools should concentrate on solving existing problems, not ones that haven’t been found yet
- Why you shouldn’t be discouraged early in your podcasting journey
- What Zach and Rock appreciate about each other
Settle back for an open and interesting chat about remote recording, and why settling for the status quo will only hold the podcasting industry back.
Connect with SquadCast:
Contact me: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Rode Podmic
- Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen
- TRITON AUDIO Fethead In-Line Microphone Preamp
- Denon DJ HP-1100 Over Ear Headphones
- RockJam MS050 Adjustable Mic Suspension Boom
- Dragonpad Pop Filter
The following transcript has been created using an automated service, so may not be 100% accurate.
Hi, and welcome to Podcaster Stories each week we will have a conversation with podcasts. It was across all mediums and share their story and what motivates them, why they started to show up as a group, the show and more, but also talk about their personal lives and some of the things that have happened. I’ve made them the person they are today. And now here’s your host Danny Brown. Hi guys. And welcome to another episode of Podcaster. Stories where we meet the voices of the people behind the show. As we listen to this week, I’ve got two guests Rockwell Felder and Zac Moreno throw them SquadCast FM. So thanks for joining me a lot of maybe you wanna introduce yourself and what your doing as well.
So I appreciate you having us on Danny and it’s, it’s a, it’s our pleasure to connect with you and add value to your audience. And yeah, a little bit about us were cofounders, like, as you said, it was SquadCast dot FMB. And what we do there is help professional podcasters create quality content remotely from anywhere in the world. And we’ve been at that about three and a half years and beyond that rock and I are long time good friends.
Danny (1m 6s):
So, and I know looking at the, I was, I mean, I use SquadCast or FM myself. We are recording this episode on SquadCast FMLA as a whole Podcaster Stories episodes recorded. And I know from your website, one of the main reasons that you guys started with SquadCast FM is because of the limitations we have Remote record and you’ve got a remote team. What, what are you finding? What are the biggest limitations that were really, you know, impact in your team’s effectiveness?
Zach (1m 31s):
Yes. Yeah. I mean, it was a little surprising to us at first that it was just so difficult to create a Podcast remotely and just how all across the board at different methods pod-casters were using, there was, you know, some very, ah, you know, to get the high quality AUDIO that we were shooting for. It seemed like, you know, it was really, it was a laborer, his effort, which is fine, but it’s just like, kind of took the fun and sizzle a lot of it. So then when we use like easier solutions, like a Skype or zoom, that was also common with podcasters, we felt like we had to sacrifice the audio quality, which really didn’t sit well with us either. So kinda went back to the drawing board because the original idea for this was that we want it to start a podcast of our own with a remote team.
Rock (2m 16s):
So it did kind of take us back to the drawing board and, and fortunately Zach is, and the guy who, who, who stays down to long and came up with another idea. And, and then it was like, well, let’s build this for the Podcast industry. And so, you know, we kind of came in as outsiders and really fans of, of, of Podcasting and have experienced the magic as listeners, but then really needed to get inside the podcast producer publisher’s head of, you know, what challenges and problems or they were experiencing. And, you know, it’s this remote recording thing, a, a, an opportunity and, you know, do people care about quality, the way that we thought they did, or at least would a with the way that, you know, Podcasting was going
Danny (2m 55s):
Right. And you mentioned that you came in to the industry as podcasters to create the platform for
Zach (3m 0s):
Podcast those. So what was your background before coming and what was your story the other day job? But if you, if you were like before, SquadCast
2 (3m 7s):
So lots of things and, and the, the podcasts that we want it to create was it was actually intended to be a, kind of a creative side project because I’m a software engineer and it was, was working in the government on ’em some environmental causes and that’s, that was really great work. And I’m glad there are people doing it, but I was writing too much code to be Frank And wanted to go back to kind of a creative side project is I went to art school before that. And, you know, I used to paint every day and I didn’t necessarily want to go and do that again. I wanted to try something completely new, and I was always a fan of podcasts from a listening perspective and really became kind of aware and hip to this new genre within Podcasting of, of audio dramas and, and fiction within Podcasting.
2 (4m 0s):
And we, we sought to create one of those news shows. So, you know, a new, medium, a new new genre within that medium, and really wanted to kinda get out of our comfort zone and try something new. And we were pretty audacious in doing that, but also we thought we had a lot of the skills necessary to do that at a high level. My, my brother, Vince, who is also on our team is a, is an, an audio engineer and sound designer. I’m a software engineer and podcasts, or kind of a medium have the web. And then my good friend and, and myself have both kind of been published authors. So we thought we had a lot of the prerequisites to do something like that, but we really found this bottleneck of quality.
2 (4m 41s):
And, and that’s really where we, we pivoted from the Podcast to building something that kind of solved our own problem and turns out a lot of other people had that same challenge as well.
Zach (4m 52s):
Yeah. And, and for me, I was just a, you know, Zach and I are longtime friends, so we’ve known each other since high school, but, you know, in college, we, you know, when are we went our separate ways as far as like career interests went. And so he went the software development route, and then I went more of the business, accounting, finance, rout. I was working at an accounting firm, has a, a business auditor, which sounds probably boring to some, but for me, I actually thought it was really exciting and, and got exposed to a lot of different businesses and, and executives and founder’s and stuff. So that’s what started to, you know, help me realize how interested I was in, you know, taking a, a jump into the, something more creative and more independent and in an entrepreneurial as good as that job was to me.
Zach (5m 37s):
And I, I don’t think I would be here today if it wasn’t for that job much, like, I think Zach feels the same way about his previous job, but, you know, something was just kind of burning inside a us independently that we wanted to do something more, again, creative and independent, and, you know, it kind of just, and it was this intersection of Zach and
2 (5m 58s):
I had already experienced working remotely and had success with that. And I think independently saw that as being a future thing that would be more common. And then this writing this curve of growth in Podcasting at the same time, that’s kind of what the bet was that the, the two of those would intersect and folks would want to create high quality content. And we want it to be that, that platform to do that right
Danny (6m 23s):
Or remotely. And I know, I know you had mentioned, I mean, I I’ve previously previously used like zoom lens and cast it and stuff like that. And one of the reasons he came Abe, you know, SquadCast FM is the features that you have, like the green room that we are using at the moment, for example, the, you know, the, the, the, the separate audio tracks that are not a lot of them that are not once have, when you were coming in to the industry to create SquadCast FM, what were some of the biggest challenges that you’ve found as you build the platform up?
2 (6m 49s):
Well, AUDIO can be very exacting a, so I think that was kind of one of the first design constraints that we have. Of course, we, we sought to strive for per producing quality audio. So if you, if you’re cool with recording kind of whatever quality audio, then it’s not very exact thing. But once you get in to kind of the, you know, the, the, the CD standard quality, or kind of the edge of human hearing capabilities, that’s when things get, you know, a balancing act between what kind of modern computers and software and stuff like that can do versus, you know, where, where our ears can can hear. And, you know, you can record quality audio, even if you solved those problems than we did, if you record the best quality audio ever.
2 (7m 37s):
And that file never actually makes it to the person who needs it to, to produce their show, then it doesn’t really matter. So reliability is kind of that second factor that, that really, I think the combo of those two things together really is where our SquadCast shines is, is the high reliability with our kind of a progressive upload technology that we’ve developed that kind of auto saves to the cloud with our backup strategy that is recorded separately, have our primaries. So we always have that kind of safety net in there for high reliability support is another one of those factors. And then just setting people up for success in post-production with time-saving features like recording in separate files, recording those files locally.
2 (8m 24s):
So there are that really high quality. And, and then also this problem of time sink issues can arise. So the so-called AUDIO drift, and I believe where the first a platform to have solved that. And we have some, you know, some patents pending around how we upload that audio that I mentioned, and then also the, the drift normalization. So all of those things combined really make, make a smooth experience on the surface, really easy for people to show up and record really great sounding AUDIO, but their there’s all of these things under the hood that add up to
Danny (8m 56s):
Produce the quality, and I’m a reliability and setting it up for success in post production. So all in service of our listeners, which is, you know, a what, what we encourage podcasters to kind of make their decisions through that lens, the success is a podcast or follows with, with your audience. No, for sure. And I know I have one or the previous platforms that you used was a notorious for AUDIO drift, and that it wasn’t something that was aware of until a lesson as we start either an email and, or pick at me on Twitter or whatever, and say, Hey, did you hear this are great because I was just have a lot on it. You know, when I first got started, you had mentioned some of the things that you see as the progress of uploads in the audience, you know, the, the, the lack of where are just et cetera. Mmm.
Danny (9m 36s):
What would, what would you say are some of the other things that separate you throw in a similar platforms you want to take this one? Rock
Zach (9m 43s):
Yeah. I mean, I think what it comes down to is that like were just really, we care a lot and we just really, aren’t gonna accept the what’s what’s commonly used or what I thought as possible. We’re not gonna take that as like, you know, we are not going to settle with that. And I think that’s why SquadCast is what it is is that, like, we figured that there are just had to be a better way that was specifically catered towards helping empowering creators. And so I think, you know, all, everything that we work on really comes down to that in the, the best way that we do that is because we have the opportunity and the benefit of serving people that talk for a living. So like very early on, we just realized, Holy crap, like these people are telling us exactly what they want and they’re, you know, they’re well spoken.
Zach (10m 28s):
They know what they know how to say what’s on their mind, which can be tough at first when it’s critical, but, you know, if you’ve got thick skin, it can actually be super beneficial because, you know, we just listen to them and, and just do, you know, a lot of the stuff that we originally set out to do is pretty much there in the original vision, but a lot of stuff has been, you know, direct customer input and feedback, and just working with them every step of the way to make sure that we’re, we’re not just creating something just for the sake of being able to build and call ourselves entrepreneurs and stuff like that. Like, we want to be solving real problems for real people and, you know, making them really happy.
Zach (11m 11s):
So I think that’s really what it boils down to is like AUDIO drift is something that we ran into as well. And it was really disappointing and scary and surprising, but we didn’t settle for that because we thought that’s, that’s unacceptable. There has to be a better way. And then the upload process, we had similar stuff to, to what happened, what was going on with Zencaster as well, and just thought that’s unacceptable. There’s gotta be a better way. So then we develop this patent pending technology called progressive upload to help just have a better upload process, because we realized that time is so precious and there’s so much work that goes into just getting that person in the interview with you. So when its time for, for SquadCast to go, you know, it needs to work.
Zach (11m 54s):
And so that’s why we really try to, we really care about that. So everything has, is really with that in mind. And also it’s because we are, we’ve been in your shoes now we have a podcast of our own, and I think that’s really helped us understand what it’s like to be a Podcaster. And, you know, we’ve experienced so many benefits of Podcasting, whether it’s building an audience, which we, you know, are starting to do, but also the relationships that you can build through the connections of having the podcast, like what we’re doing right now, Danny like, it’s, it’s, it’s a pretty incredible thing. So we just care about it. We really like it. It’s, it’s a, it’s a great, we feel like a lot.
Danny (12m 32s):
No, I know you, you know, what is that as an end user, I can see that coming through, you know, like I said, when I moved over from a previous host or Remote or record a host, I should stay and you can just see the difference right away. And, and speaking to the users, what, I mean, you must let me see countless amounts of Podcast being uploaded and then definitely types of podcasts. Etcetera. What would you say is possible is the biggest mistake if you like that Remote podcast does make either when it comes to the end of the process or the platform, or even on the record in what, what, what, what are you seeing and how I was SquadCast aiming to, so we fix that or if you like,
2 (13m 7s):
Yeah. I think that there’s a lot of opportunities around, around education, and that’s always been something that is kind of near and dear to our mission, because we’re all figuring out Podcasting as we go, it’s a relatively new medium, so there’s not this defined equation that you follow the recipe and everything, you know, it comes out the same every time. So that’s really, you know, that that can feel kind of a paralyzing, but it also is empowering because it’s like a fresh sheet of paper and we’re all, you know, getting to innovate at the same time. So that can lead to a lot of, kind of non-intuitive things, different behavior and things like that around.
2 (13m 47s):
Umm, and you know, we just published a very excited to say, we’ve just published our first Remote Podcast Stats report that has some very interesting data. And we did that in a webinar called the state of Vermont Podcasting. So that’s a, that’s on our blog and on our side, if you want to check that out at SquadCast FM and really there are some insights in their that answering your question. So one of them is the, the Microphone choice. There’s a lot of recommendations out there from, from influencers and podcasters, but its all at the end of the day, anecdotal advice, we sought to bring clear data driven decision making to the Podcast community through the 2019 year we had data and we, we brought that out to the community to really help people to inform their choice of Microphone to bring awareness to the times of day is that podcasters are recording.
2 (14m 42s):
I think a lot of people think that anecdotally again, that it’s nights and weekends, it’s a hobbyist, it’s all that stuff. Not true from, from what we’ve seen in our data. People are Podcasting during the Workday, which I think speaks to the professionalism and the evolution of our medium and community. Another one is a recording with headphones versus speakers. That’s a big debate in, in our community. And we again were able to bring some, some clear kind of, you know, cut and dry data to that, to that picture in the conversation. And for anybody out there, please wear headphones, anytime you record AUDIO I think that’s one of the, the big takeaways, things that we see kinds of people just, just showing up on SquadCast and jumping in head first, which is always good.
2 (15m 28s):
We always tell people, just start your podcast, right? But it’s it’s it’s not intuitive. Why headphones would impact quality? It’s it’s intuitive. Why the microphone would impact quality, but headphones is just one of those things. That’s not intuitive. It’s not a fashion statement or a coincidence that you see people in studios and things like that, all wearing headphones. There’s a reason for that. And I can go into that, but you know, please wear headphones and your guest’s as well.
Danny (15m 54s):
I, I, I know I’m I when I first had Podcast and I would just use the microphone And, you know, I’ve, I’ve always done it on my record and I’ve always wondered why I was shouting verses my guest is just, you know, I’ve come across naturally. And, and then when a group, when I got like the, the, the focus, right. And I got headphones, there was a whole new world with the direct monitor and it was crazy different. So yeah.
2 (16m 14s):
Yeah. That’s a big one. And then also this like, like if you’re using speaker’s that can, because this feedback echo loupe and we can cancel that out on SquadCast you don’t need headphones to record with us. It can be canceled out, but that requires software to impact the quality of your audio. And we don’t want to do that. We want to give you the sounds that came from your mouth. We want to give you that and nothing in between. So, so when we have to cancel out that, that feedback, it can really compress and, and drive the volume down and impact the quality of the audio. We don’t want that. So a much simpler solution is just wearing headphones to cancel that at all.
Danny (16m 49s):
Okay. And, and I know you had mentioned earlier about, there are the recommendations of Microphone by choice and How so an original podcast or the influencers would go in and whether they were getting paid to do so by the brand, et cetera, who knows, but what I’ve been impressed with SquadCast and when I look at your board of advisors, for example, you’ve got some crazy experience, people that are like Pat Flynn, for instance. So how did something like that come about? Did they approach you or do you approach him somewhere in the middle or,
2 (17m 15s):
Yeah, that’s kind of the, it’s what we were very blessed to, to kind of a, we didn’t know what advisers were or what this advisory board was when we first started this startup game, but, you know, we’re, we’re, we’re students of the game in love to learn new things. So, you know, when we were researching how to start a business and, and specifically a software company, you know, one of the things that came up was leaning on the advice of other folks that were either had deep industry knowledge or, or network connections, or, you know, obviously the ability to a,
Zach (17m 50s):
You know, build a business and, you know, it did for one reason or another, they all just kind of happened. It wasn’t, you know, the most intentional thing, which, you know, because it has downsides, but it’s also because a lot of this stuff we were just doing for the first time. So, you know, we went to podcast movement in, in 2016, it’s like the first unveiling, if you will, of SquadCast to the Podcast community. And it was obviously very early days for us and, and, you know, an incredibly anxious time for us because, you know, we had no idea how we were going to be received and, you know, just were still operating under a, a lot of assumptions. So we’re really, you know, like how has this community going to receive us?
Zach (18m 31s):
And like within the first five minutes it was like, Oh my gosh, they’re like, it felt like it was at home. And these people were really awesome at this event. And in, in LA is when we met our first advisor, Harry Dorin. And he’s kind of be the one that helps us with those other relationships. And that was really helping us set the tone of why those relationships are so important because we spent the next year with him really, you know, developing our, our positioning and our, our, our our message and not really understanding who were, were, were servicing and why and how to do that. And so a lot of what you see in SquadCast today is, is thank you, thanks to Harry Duran. But, you know, shortly after that, we started getting connected with other folks in the industry, like Espree Devora from where LA tech, Jordan harbinger, and Pat Flynn, who we were always fans of.
Zach (19m 22s):
And so the opportunity to work with someone like that, it was like men, you know, the no brainer. And then just to have them just open doors for us or see things in ways that, you know, just, it feels like we’re skipping steps. I guess this is really what that helps us out with. Like, we would have figured out thing most of this stuff, but we’ve bumbled and stumbled our way on enough thing. So it’s nice to, you know, be ahead of a few things when people can tell you like, Hey, this is what you should try, or you should think about it like this, or, Hey, I worked with this other company and this is what they did. So don’t do that. Or do you do that? So it is, it’s been an incredible man. ’cause, you know, we look up to these people and they’ve been indirect mentors of ours in a lot of ways, but to actually like work with them directly.
Zach (20m 8s):
And they’re like, still that same person, its, its, its kind of trippy, but you know, we’re, we’re super grateful for it. And honestly like what we keep hearing from them is that they do, they’re doing this for us, you know? And they do have like a, a, an equity stake in the company. But you know, it’s not like a, a, a significant amount or a controlling amount. They don’t make decisions. So a lot of this is coming from a generous place. I, I really think, and that’s because other people have helped them along the way. And so I think one of the things that Zach and I are starting to see and getting really excited about as like our opportunity to, in a, to start helping folks in a little way, and as we continue to grow and, and get more experience and build our network to,
2 (20m 48s):
To do that even more is, is really exciting to me. So is that weird?
Danny (20m 52s):
So you’re about to Mics podcast came from the idea where it’s introducing people to the wider community. I like people you admire for instance.
2 (20m 59s):
Yeah. It’s, it’s a something that we felt tremendously grateful. Like we were really, as Rock said, we, we had some imposter syndrome early days and all, a lot of this was not validated and there was a lot of risk and all of these things that, you know, startup founders talk about. But as we started to really understand that, yes, there is a huge opportunity here. Nobody’s kind of happy with the state-of-the-art and we can bring something fresh and new. And we got that to finally work and thanks to our advisors in the community. And, you know, I mentioned progressive upload before that that was not our idea. That was Harry Durand’s idea. So thank you, Harry, for, for all of your contributions in the community as well.
2 (21m 40s):
So that, you know, is where we found ourselves when we started the Between to Mics podcast was, Hey, we’re in this incredibly fortunate position to have contributed something new to Podcasting. And as we built out connections and kind of awareness as to the Podcast landscape and community, we saw that there were all of these other great people out there who were also pushing Podcasting forward and one way or another, and kind of stretching the boundaries of the medium and the community. And like, as an example, Rock you mentioned a spree are adviser. You know, she was at, at, at symbol cast contributing two to their product roadmap.
2 (22m 22s):
And simple cast is a, a very innovative podcast hosting company with analytics and really kind of on the forefront of, of what’s possible in that part of the, of the industry. And ah, and there’s a lot of other people. So its really about sharing those stories, making people aware, like Podcasting, like I said before, his is kind of a fresh sheet of paper. Like there is kind of some, some things like we know we need a podcast hosts. We know we need to record somehow in these things, but like in between the two, there’s a lot of space for innovation. So we want it to explore and celebrate those people that are, that are helping innovate in the podcasting space, know us.
Danny (23m 2s):
I will see podcasters yourself and you know, the people behind SquadCast and the platform and what that offers podcasters. And if you could give one single piece of advice to new podcast, those are the people thinking about getting into there, the medium, what would that be?
2 (23m 15s):
Yeah, I think that there’s a lot of excitement and drive around creating Podcast is on the surface. So from the, from the listener perspective, it seems very easy to get started and it can be, but I think people get kind of bogged down in the technology sometimes. And with the experience with SquadCast we’ve always sought to, of course it’s a technology tool and platform, but we’ve always strived to put as much of it below the surface as possible. So that it’s really straight forward to just click record, walk away with awesome sounding audio files that are gonna make it easy for you to edit and publish that, that Podcast. So there doesn’t really need to be all this fancy technology.
2 (23m 59s):
There are problems though, and I think of technology as tools. So you don’t go in like look for tools to solve problems you haven’t found yet. Right? Like I think that’s kind of, people kind of put those in the reverse order sometimes where it’s like, well I need a, B C, but if you haven’t encountered like, you know, the problem that AI solves, then you don’t really need a right. So it’s, it’s kind of like a, is as complex as you want to make it. And I think people see professional podcasters with all this gear and all these boxes on their desks and stuff like that. And its like, Oh, that’s what I need to be like, not true at all. You can sound great from anywhere in the world and, and you don’t need a lot of technology to, to do that.
2 (24m 42s):
And I think that that’s something that, that, that kinda gets in people’s way. And then a and then once you are started, keep going, you know, don’t be discouraged by not sounding great on your first couple of interviews, like awkward pauses or not knowing how to do something in post-production and editing out like your, your dog’s snoring in the background or something along those lines, like just look forward and look for opportunities to continue improving and, and just take ownership of it. Like, look, I don’t know what I’m doing, you know, and that’s fine because I’m going to get better and stick with me through this journey and then you’ll have this archive over time. Any, any Podcast or who has been at it for more than a year or two, they all say like, Oh please don’t listen to my first like 20 episodes or a a hundred episodes or whatever it is.
2 (25m 26s):
But I, I like that stuff. And there’s this, even this debate in the community about like deleting those episodes from your feed at some point. And I think that’s, that’s, that’s like trying, you know, I like transparency, anybody who knows me. So I think, you know, just take ownership and just say, yeah, I’m way better now than I was then. And here’s the proof.
Danny (25m 46s):
Yeah, no, and I, I know of less than back to my own. Podcast like the echo is on there, the noise and the back end and say, well my grief or what was I thinking? It’s to your point, it shows go off and it shows someone willing to lounge. You know, I just see a take on a trip and I think people appreciated that more as opposed to someone that comes in with all the bells and whistles from day one, that’s super slick recordings and everything. All right. So just to like switch it around a bit, what is something about a, you both know that people might know that there are people that know you may be surprised to learn of that don’t already know him. And is it a good question? Should we go?
2 (26m 20s):
You want us to do it like me answer about Zach and hymn about me or me answer about a know
Danny (26m 25s):
Myself. Oh, that could be for an actual, this is like a, a Mr. And Mrs. Pannell here and that it could be fun at the club. I did not mean to set it up like that.
2 (26m 33s):
Well, I’ll, I’ll start and say something about rock. Is that sound good? Yeah, for sure. Okay. So Rock has these incredible skill’s that he mentioned with, with, you know, finance and business and accounting and these like, you know, very kind of cut and dry skills. Like you can do something where you can’t, but I have noticed that he, he often overlooks of himself his abilities to, to do things at a high-level outside of those in, in creative ways. Like those seem like very non-creative fields, but a as we’ve learned business is probably one of the most creative things that a person can do and rock and Xcel’s in that environment.
2 (27m 20s):
So that’s convinced me that it’s not all, you know, hard skills. There are, there are a lot of soft skills in there as well. And, and that comes to life every day in creative ways with our business.
Zach (27m 33s):
That’s funny, you said that, man, because that’s what I was going to kind of use is like the soft skills, you know, it can be very easy as someone in your position, who’s got so much, so much work to do your job’s almost always ending as our, our lead on, on, on the, the vision of our products, the development of our product. But then on top of that, you have on the job as CEO, as the leader of the company and the way that you set the tone at the top and the vision and stuff like that. So for me, it’s been interesting to see someone who is doing both and he likes to do both, you know, it’s, it’s pretty awesome cause its like, well who better to communicate the vision of a tech company than someone who loves technology as much as Zach and believes in technology as much as Zach and he, he takes it very seriously, like almost to a fault.
Zach (28m 26s):
So maybe that’s the, maybe that’s the thing that people don’t know about it is he’s very sensitive about technology. So be gentle when discussing technology.
Danny (28m 36s):
Okay, well I’m a diehard geek, so I would never, ever looked a step on anybody’s toes or when it comes to okay. Guy. So this would be on like a pleasure. I really enjoyed a chat and I could see it for what I was just talking away, but I am wary of people that don’t listen to podcasts like Joe Rogan for three hours or whatever. So I like it, you know, during my limits for people that want to learn about a SquadCast or the platform or, or listening to your podcasts or, or, or anything like that, or where’s the best place for them to, to connect with you guys. Yeah.
2 (29m 7s):
Our podcast is available everywhere and that’s the Between to Mike’s and number two and a, we talked to people who were pushing Podcasting foreword in one way or another, and we’re always looking for the, you know, the innovator’s in the industry and talking to them about their stories. And ah, like I said, there’s no shortage of those. It’s it’s pretty amazing days. And Podcasting and, and were, were looking to celebrate and bring those stories to the community. And then at SquadCast we are very open and part of the community. So find us that meetups or a, or conferences when we kind of get to a, those hopefully in the near future here. And you can find us in the meantime, M on the, our website at SquadCast dot FM or on social media at SquadCast FM and a, you know, we’re, we’re very grateful, as I said at the beginning too, a to connect with you, Danny.
2 (29m 58s):
So thank you for having us on. We appreciate it. Thank you. Danny
Danny (30m 2s):
No, thank you. Okay guys. Well, this has been under our episode of Podcaster Stories if you enjoyed this big show and made sure to subscribe, so you don’t want me to set up so that when it comes out and you can find the show either at Podcast Stories dot com all on your favorite apps, like Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Spotify, et cetera, until the next time be well, and we’ll speak soon. You’ve been listening to podcasts or stories. If you enjoyed this week’s show, be sure to subscribe. So you don’t miss an episode and feel free to leave a review on iTunes to help other trainers show to you. And we’ll see in the next time on Podcaster Stories.